Sunday, November 11, 2007

Pig-bitin' mad

I apologize in advance for what is to follow, but I need to vent. Disclaimer: the sentiments presented below are my own and are not intended to represent the opinions of any other member of The Motor Primitives past, present or future. No animals were hurt in the putting down of these words.

This afternoon, we played at the The High Noon Saloon in a benefit concert for the Madison Area Peace Coalition. I may be mistaken, but as I understand it, we were asked to take part in this benefit. We did not request to play or in any way try to horn in on the event. We donated our time, giving up the better part of the day in order to help raise funds for the MAPC and I, for one, was happy to do it. But, we play rock music. We are a rock band. That’s who we are. It’s what we do. Presumably, they knew that before asking us to participate, and if they didn’t, they should have. There were certainly other things I could have done instead, and I assume the other members of the band would not have been moping around at home had we not been involved in this benefit.

So, where was I? Oh, yes. We played this benefit. We followed two acoustic groups. There was no opportunity to do a sound check, so when we took the stage no levels had been set, etc, etc. Before we even started playing, still doing line checks and what have you, one of the organizers informed us that we were too loud. I felt like we were being treated as if we were imposing on the event when we were asked to be there. And believe me, we weren’t that loud. But, in the spirit of peace, love, cooperation and all that good stuff, we tried to play as quietly as we possibly could. I turned down so low that I couldn’t hear any bass at all out of the very nice (and heavy) bass rig I had lugged to the event despite my aging back, knees and other parts. I was getting some bass through the stage monitors, but bass doesn’t sound so good coming out of monitor speakers, particularly when you haven’t had a sound check. What happens, you might ask, when you turn down so low you can’t hear yourself? Well, since you asked, I’ll tell you. First, no matter what your brain tells your body, your body works harder in an unconscious attempt to make more sound. You pluck, pick, strum or hit harder. You can’t help it. Next thing you know, your hands are cramping. After about ten minutes, you get what I call “The Claw.” Your hands lock up in a claw-like shape. It doesn't feel particularly good.

I must point out that I still support the MAPC. The gentlepeople involved were very polite. I believe that none of this took place as the result of any malicious intent. I think the sound person at the High Noon Saloon (sorry, dude, I didn’t get your name) did an admirable job under the circumstances. I will, however, rethink my position on benefit concerts. I don’t think this is a good model of how to treat people from whom you are asking favors. I’ve found that when you play without getting paid, people tend to assume, subconsciously, that your service has no value. It seems that many people have absolutely no idea how much work goes in to a performance on the part of the performers. If that ever happens again, that's it. I'm off the stage. I’ve been playing for too many years and my family has sacrificed too much to .... oh, screw it. I’m done.

Okay, Ed. Deep breath. Good. Now another. And another. That’s better. Okay. Thanks. Sorry about all that.

Thank you to everyone who came to hear us play. Despite all my griping, I enjoyed playing. It’s a joy to be a part of this group, to play with such fabulous (I like that word, fabulous, don’t you?) musicians and to play for all the wonderful people who come to hear us.

Rock on,
Ed

18 Comments:

Robin said...

Sheesh Ed! No editorial on the Raging Grannies. The Motor Primitives stuck between klezmer and 20 old ladies in hats. That was historic!

Ellie got a shot of your "claw" here

1:22 PM  
ellie said...

I thought you fuckin' rocked, no matter how many clams could be steamed under that hot manly collar of yours, Ed.
Besides, the buttheads comlaining about your volume should have talked to the soundman. Or shut the fuck up and realized that rock and roll is supposed to be loud enough to shake yer boo-tay.

1:33 PM  
Ed said...

You're right about the historicness of it all, Robin. I have to be nice to the Raging Grannies, though. The first time I ever heard Led Zeppelin was in one of the RG's basement, ca. 1975.

Great picture, Ellie. I love all the movement and swirly colors 'n' stuff. You're right about the other stuff, too. Why hire (I use the word "hire" loosely, here) a rock band if you don't want them to rock? I wonder if they think it odd that they can't seem to get any youngsters to show up?

3:38 PM  
Suzy said...

The Grannies could have just turned their hearing aids down ... I have to be careful though. Most of them were friends of my mom. SHE would have rocked to the Motor Primitives, and bragged to everyone that the bass player is her son-in-law, you can be sure of that. Ed, I think you're right about benefits. They're good if one of you has a personal connection to the cause, otherwise the possibility of feeling used is strong. And regardless, they should treat you as someone who is doing them a favor. Period. (Personally, I love this new gig of yours, BTW.)

4:21 PM  
Pam said...

Hey Ed! Could you TURN DOWN a bit? I can hear you from all the way across the Isthmus!!

In all fairness, Helena from MAPC was super gracious and came up to me several times during the course of the event to express her gratitude for our participation. She also noticed that we brought a bunch of our fans/friends (something that most of the other acts didn't seem to do).

After the first song, I turned up. Couldn't help it. Don't ask a rock band to turn down half way through the sound check. You just make them cranky.

I've got to agree with the playing for free thing. Not only are you not getting compensated for the hours of rehearsal and the several hours spent day of show, you are diminishing your bands ability to play another show in that same town within a certain time frame. What I mean by that is, if we had another gig in town (a paying one) the night before the benefit, our fan base would be divided and we'd likely see half of them show up at each show.

While money is not why we play, money is why we don't have a CD out yet. I'd sure like to get some of our stuff recorded!

7:12 PM  
Suzy said...

BTW, Mr. Bass Player, are you SURE no animals were harmed during the writing of this post? No cats had their heads pounded or tails pulled, for example? Just asking ...

7:14 PM  
Pam said...

I'm not sure I want to know.....

9:50 PM  
Ed said...

I plead the fifth.

12:42 AM  
Pam said...

Sorry, can't do that. The constitution is null and void.

If I find any pigs with bites in them....

6:14 AM  
M Big Mistake said...

It is possible that the event organizers have not heard the new incarnation of the MPs. I considered the last lineup as "folk-pop-rock" and this one as "rawk". All of the recordings on the web are of the lighter version. The bigger bass stack and the organ add a louder sound that rumbles more, and might be unbearable for someone with a hearing aid.

Having organized charity events with bands in the past, I can say that you do your best to keep the band happy...but at the end of the day, the event isn't about the band...it is about raising money for your charity. If the audience (the paying audience) complains that the music is too loud...you ask the band to turn it down.

Anyway, there are plenty of struggling bands who are working their asses off to get into upper level venues in this town like the High Noon...under any conditions...so if you don't like playing benefits, you could pass those opportunities on to others.

7:38 AM  
Jeff said...

M Big Mistake has a point, and we're working on that. I'm switching to banjo and Ed is taking piccolo lessons.

Seriously though, any band with a drum kit is going to be loud, including the "old" Motor Primitives. I saw them many times and never thought of them as "acoustic" or "soft" in any way. They were 100% rock. The new lineup is 100% rock. LET IT BE KNOWN!

8:34 AM  
M Big Mistake said...

I'm not saying that the band shouldn't be loud...or that it didn't used to be loud. All I'm saying is that the event organizers might not have expected it to be as loud as it now is. Ed implied that they should have known what they were getting into, and I'm not so sure that is true.

Anyway, it was their event and so they get to call the shots. It is also a band's perogative to not accept those kinds of gigs...in which case others will gladly accept them.

11:10 AM  
M Big Mistake said...

Oh...and if you don't think piccolo and banjo are loud and annoying and painful to those with hearing aids (or without) than you clearly have lost ALL of your hearing after years of RAWK music ...and haven't ever had a food cart on library mall...

11:16 AM  
ellie said...

You're rock gods, and those who book rock bands should not expect quiet grace and subtle beauty, but the savage glee and frenetic ballet dance of weaving keyboard stands, the massive throbbing claw hand of the pig bitin' Ed, the pulsing riddim vibe of skins being slapped by the mad robin, and the velvet vice grip of pam's warbling throat of sublime rock vocals and her shimmering and intense guitars.
It's a sad world when dirty hippie peaceniks complain about rock music bein' too loud.

12:20 PM  
Ed said...

I'd just like to make it clear that I am, and will remain, a supporter of the MAPC. I appreciate the efforts of all involved to make the world a better and safer place. It was a frustrating situation, though. One of the complications that goes along with a coalition is exactly that; it's a coalition. There were probably as many different ideas about what kind of an event to put on as there were groups in the coalition. That can lead to complicated situations.

I think a lot of people see the large stack and, before a note is played, they’re thinking “Too loud!” The whole point of the large bass stack is not to be louder, but to get cleaner bass tone, which, as any bass player knows, is actually easier on the ears than the same volume through a smaller rig. Ask anyone with whom I've played - I always try to keep my volume at a reasonable level; I’ve been asked to turn up far more often than to turn down, but I have to be loud enough to hear myself and I couldn't hear anything out of my speakers that day. All I could hear was drums and guitar. Drums have no volume knob, and I thought the level of the guitar was appropriate. Against my better judgement, I turned down in an attempt to be accommodating. With hindsight, it didn’t seem to satisfy anyone, so what was the point? I asked a number of people whose opinions I respect and who aren’t particular lovers of loud music if the volume was excessive. Some of them were even over fifty. The responses ranged from “no, it was fine” to “it was too quiet.” I believe they are people who would have told me if they thought otherwise. Further, I've been playing for thirty years and played more benefits than I can count. Often overlooked is the fact that what a performer gives, and in turn brings, to an event far exceeds the monetary sacrifice of the cover charge paid by any individual. I know quite a few veteran musicians who will no longer play benefits, and money, or the lack thereof, has nothing to do with it. I understand why that is. That is not to say I will never play another benefit, and do so gladly, but it has been my experience over the years that some very good and well-meaning organizations (and I’m not referring to any group in particular) that ask artists for their participation will take and take and take until you can’t take no more. Everyone has needs and they need to be balanced. Unfortunately, the Worthy Cause/Well Intentioned Artist relationship seems to be particularly out of balance. If you think I’m just making this up, ask a few other seasoned musicians what they think.

I believe I apologized in the beginning of the whole piece and pointed out that I was merely venting frustration. I expected it to end there. To be honest, I didn't think anyone ever reads this blog; this post was meant to be more of a cathartic experience than a public statement and in no way did I intend to offend anyone. I apologize again now if I have done so. I repeat, I still believe in what the MAPC is doing. They're good people and I regret having voiced my frustration in what turned out to be a more public forum than I had thought was actually the case. I guess I learned a little lesson today. I'm not retracting anything that I wrote, but I also don't harbor any hard feelings toward anyone who was involved. I was just pissing and moaning to make myself feel better. I even thought Pam, Robin, Jeff, Ellie and Suzy might get a giggle out of it. Doh! We're all human, we all make mistakes (I did, once, or maybe twice, now) and I can live with that quite happily.

Peace, love and rock ‘n’ roll (folk-rock?),
Ed

P.S. Thanks, Ellie! I love you!

2:14 PM  
Suzy said...

BTW, I see that stack in the corner of the living room everyday and think, "TOO LOUD!"

11:14 PM  
M Big Mistake said...

Ed...dude...chill. There's no attack happening here.

Typically people post to websites because they want to interact with others. And there are ALWAYS more people reading than you think. Welcome to the blog-o-sphere. Where everything you say can and will be held against you.

Personally...I would love to play as many benefit gigs as possible. The reason is that the exchange is even for me. My band needs exposure because it is hard to get gigs because no one knows who we are. For us, an organization is doing us a favor by letting us play at a benefit...no matter what the conditions are or what the pay is. Our pay is one more chance to play live...and exposure to the event patrons and to the venue's management. Name in the paper. Maybe a chance to book another gig because of the exposure.

If you're not at that place in your career or the band's career where you need that exposure, the only benefit that you get is the fun of playing and a warm feeling in your heart. If one or both of those things is missing, then you probably shouldn't play benefits...which sounds like the conclusion that you've drawn anyway.

I don't think that charities are trying to be disrespectful to musicians when these things happen...it's just that charities don't have the experience with live music that you do and so they obviously can't provide a stellar quality experience for the musician.

I just hear a lot of grumbling by bands (not just you) about how much playing benefits sucks...and I wish that there was a way to hook up the people who want to play them with the the event organizers. I guess it is time to starting sending press packets out to charities.

8:11 AM  
Ed said...

Consider me chilled. Brrrr!

2:42 PM  

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